Erik and Charles in comics canon, part 5
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We finally get to the last post of the series, and more of less catch up to current comics canon. Doing this has been the most fun I've had in fandom in ages, and I'd like to thank everyone for the wonderfully encouraging comments and interesting discussions that came up along the way. As time-consuming as making these posts was, I'll definitely miss the whole process now that I'm done.
Attempting to summarize everything that happened after the events of House of M and the mutant decimation would take a whole post by itself, so here's just the relevant facts for the scans that follow: Charles is in a coma from being shot in the head during a mission to protect a mutant messiah (it's not nearly as silly as it sounds in a sentence) and is walking again (...of course he is), Erik is currently depowered (but don't worry, it doesn't stick. Both Erik and Charles were among the mutants who lost their powers, but Marvel knows better than to keep two of its most iconic characters out of the game too long), and Charles is currently being held by Magneto's former Acolytes who are very eager to get into his head, and naturally believe that Erik is the best way to do that.
Btw, Karinda Shapandar is the same young woman that Charles and Erik rescued in their Amazing Underwater Adventure in Excalibur, so Erik chastising her for listening in is a bit rich: if he's hoping to conceal their relationship from her, the horse has left the barn.Karinda just wants her two dads to work things out!
The sound of Erik's voice ends up triggering a series of memories in Charles' head, all unsuprisingly related to the decades of love and dysfunction.
This whole issue is basically continuity!porn. And while I wrote the previous posts before rereading this issue, I'm amused that the moment chosen for the hallucination sequence pretty much reflect the content of said posts. This is the canon version of doing a slashiest moments retrospective.
Oh Karinda, don't you get it? It's not about who “wins”, it's about the game.
So basically what it takes to bring Charles out in the land of the living is to reach some kind of resolution/achieve understanding with Erik inside his head. Not quite the kiss waking up Sleeping Beauty, but close enough.
The reunion is rudely interrupted by Acolyte Frenzy attempting to kill Charles, only to be stopped in an extremely badass fashion by Erik, who doesn't need powers to kick ass and take names.
This is both sad and strangely vindicating. Because yay, canon confirmation that neither of them is 100% right in their approach, but on other hand, so many years of conflict and losses could have been avoided if they'd both gotten their heads out of their asses and found some middle groud between kumbayah and kneel beforeZod Magneto.
I'd be more annoyed at the constant Acolyte interruptions if they weren't currently in their base. So anyway, Exodus decides that currently human Erik offends his mutant supremacist sensibilities and tries to kill him.
For all his current disorientation and partial amnesia, Charles remembers enough to know that nobody is allowed to kill his boyfriendexcept himself, sort of, that one time. He proceeds to kick Exodus' ass all over the psychic plane.
Now why do I get the feeling that when Erik says Charles was both hated and loved, he's not just referring to the rest of the world? Also, I love that for all that Charles' memory resembles Swiss cheese at this point, the one thing he remembers with stark clarity is his history with Erik.
Some time later, the X-Men and pretty much all surviving mutants have established a base/ mutant “Utopia” on Magneto's old crashed satellite, just off the coast of San Fransisco. It was only a matter of time before the previous tenant dropped by.
Given how genial their previous interaction was, the only explanation I can think of for Charles' pissiness is that Erik is there to speak to Scott, not him. And ok, there was an incident in the interim where Magneto attacked the X-Men with giant robots, but it's so minor (for them), that Charles being annoyed at being ignored just seems to fit more.
Either way, it's kind of hard to concentrate on the significance of the moment due to the distraction of the eyesore that is the art of talentless tracer, pornface conveyor and all-around hack Greg Land (and as bad as these panels are, they're nothing to the atrocities he commits against female characters. Don't take my word for it-just google any variation of “Greg Land sucks”, “Greg Land can't draw” and “Greg Land traces porn” for some truly epic online take-downs).
See, told you! Totally motivated by jealousy and possessiveness. “It's always us”, indeed.
Or maybe Charles is both weary after the neverending circle of breaking up and getting back together again.
Whatever the reason, he can't stay mad at Erik for long.
And then Erik, in a moment of crowning awesome, proceeds to use his powers to reach into deep space and bring back Kitty Pryde/Shadowcat, who's been trapped there inside a giant bullet (long story) for months! As an aside, going through all this canon in a short time was also interesting in terms of the relationships Magneto had with other X-Men besides Charles, and Kitty is particularly good example. She has played a part in so many of Magneto's major moments-almost killing her started the process of Magneto first doubting his path as a villain back in the day (in that What Not To Wear issue of X-Men covered in the first post), she was the first X-Man after Charles Magneto managed to convince of his sincerity during the first redemption arc, and there have been some great scenes of them bonding over being Jewish that I haven't included due to a lack of Charles/Erik. So it's more than appropriate that Erik helping her where the X-Men failed (or, let's be honest, not trying all that hard, Scott) is how he proves his change of heart.
As a bonus, I'm including a moment during that period that's not Erik/Charles related but was just too cute to skip. The current batch of X-kids are convinced the base is haunted, but are ignored by all the adults they turned to for help, save Erik, who volunteers.
His evil chuckle in the last panel! Erik is having entirely too much fun fun with playing up his “Master of Magnetism” persona and messing with the kids' heads.
I don't know what it is about Erik's unique brand of bonding with teenagers by both inspiring and terrorizing them that I find adorable, but I just do.
And speaking of Erik and the younger generation, he has been developing a unique rapport with teenage mutant messiah Hope, leading to this great Erik/Charles interaction in the pages of the Generation Hope series:
Aw, poor Charles is feeling left out, which is in keeping with his general lack of purpose in the books lately, since Scott has replaced him in the leadership role.
Erik's face in the third panel is seriously cracking me up. On a more serious note, it's appropriate the old differences and debates are still there, though they've both grown enough to have them without wrecking destruction, psychic attacks or shirtless crucifixions.
Being introduced to the hope of mutantkind as “a dear friend” by former X-Men nemesis is not helping Charles feel any less out of the loop.
LOL, reversing earth's magnetic poles is one thing, but siccing a precocious teen on him is just playing dirty. And Erik is not even attempting to conceal his smugness. No wonder Charles is pissy all the time these days.
In the most recent storyline, Charles' creepy mutant son Legion is causing mayhem, and Erik refuses to let Charles face him alone, adding to Charles' state of permanent annoyance at everyone overruling himand having to share Erik with the X-Men these days.
Yep, still married.
So there you have it, my (more or less) complete list of Erik/Charles moments in mainstream comics continuity. There's plenty of slashiness to be had in the various alternative comic book universes (Ultimate X-Men, House of M:Civil War are the more obvious examples), but I'm not familiar enough with most to take on that particular task (or in the case of Ultimate X-Men, to deal with that clusterfuck of an ending), though hopefully some braver soul than me will attempt that.
Attempting to summarize everything that happened after the events of House of M and the mutant decimation would take a whole post by itself, so here's just the relevant facts for the scans that follow: Charles is in a coma from being shot in the head during a mission to protect a mutant messiah (it's not nearly as silly as it sounds in a sentence) and is walking again (...of course he is), Erik is currently depowered (but don't worry, it doesn't stick. Both Erik and Charles were among the mutants who lost their powers, but Marvel knows better than to keep two of its most iconic characters out of the game too long), and Charles is currently being held by Magneto's former Acolytes who are very eager to get into his head, and naturally believe that Erik is the best way to do that.
Btw, Karinda Shapandar is the same young woman that Charles and Erik rescued in their Amazing Underwater Adventure in Excalibur, so Erik chastising her for listening in is a bit rich: if he's hoping to conceal their relationship from her, the horse has left the barn.
The sound of Erik's voice ends up triggering a series of memories in Charles' head, all unsuprisingly related to the decades of love and dysfunction.
This whole issue is basically continuity!porn. And while I wrote the previous posts before rereading this issue, I'm amused that the moment chosen for the hallucination sequence pretty much reflect the content of said posts. This is the canon version of doing a slashiest moments retrospective.
Oh Karinda, don't you get it? It's not about who “wins”, it's about the game.
So basically what it takes to bring Charles out in the land of the living is to reach some kind of resolution/achieve understanding with Erik inside his head. Not quite the kiss waking up Sleeping Beauty, but close enough.
The reunion is rudely interrupted by Acolyte Frenzy attempting to kill Charles, only to be stopped in an extremely badass fashion by Erik, who doesn't need powers to kick ass and take names.
This is both sad and strangely vindicating. Because yay, canon confirmation that neither of them is 100% right in their approach, but on other hand, so many years of conflict and losses could have been avoided if they'd both gotten their heads out of their asses and found some middle groud between kumbayah and kneel before
I'd be more annoyed at the constant Acolyte interruptions if they weren't currently in their base. So anyway, Exodus decides that currently human Erik offends his mutant supremacist sensibilities and tries to kill him.
For all his current disorientation and partial amnesia, Charles remembers enough to know that nobody is allowed to kill his boyfriend
Now why do I get the feeling that when Erik says Charles was both hated and loved, he's not just referring to the rest of the world? Also, I love that for all that Charles' memory resembles Swiss cheese at this point, the one thing he remembers with stark clarity is his history with Erik.
Some time later, the X-Men and pretty much all surviving mutants have established a base/ mutant “Utopia” on Magneto's old crashed satellite, just off the coast of San Fransisco. It was only a matter of time before the previous tenant dropped by.
Given how genial their previous interaction was, the only explanation I can think of for Charles' pissiness is that Erik is there to speak to Scott, not him. And ok, there was an incident in the interim where Magneto attacked the X-Men with giant robots, but it's so minor (for them), that Charles being annoyed at being ignored just seems to fit more.
Either way, it's kind of hard to concentrate on the significance of the moment due to the distraction of the eyesore that is the art of talentless tracer, pornface conveyor and all-around hack Greg Land (and as bad as these panels are, they're nothing to the atrocities he commits against female characters. Don't take my word for it-just google any variation of “Greg Land sucks”, “Greg Land can't draw” and “Greg Land traces porn” for some truly epic online take-downs).
See, told you! Totally motivated by jealousy and possessiveness. “It's always us”, indeed.
Or maybe Charles is both weary after the neverending circle of breaking up and getting back together again.
Whatever the reason, he can't stay mad at Erik for long.
And then Erik, in a moment of crowning awesome, proceeds to use his powers to reach into deep space and bring back Kitty Pryde/Shadowcat, who's been trapped there inside a giant bullet (long story) for months! As an aside, going through all this canon in a short time was also interesting in terms of the relationships Magneto had with other X-Men besides Charles, and Kitty is particularly good example. She has played a part in so many of Magneto's major moments-almost killing her started the process of Magneto first doubting his path as a villain back in the day (in that What Not To Wear issue of X-Men covered in the first post), she was the first X-Man after Charles Magneto managed to convince of his sincerity during the first redemption arc, and there have been some great scenes of them bonding over being Jewish that I haven't included due to a lack of Charles/Erik. So it's more than appropriate that Erik helping her where the X-Men failed (or, let's be honest, not trying all that hard, Scott) is how he proves his change of heart.
As a bonus, I'm including a moment during that period that's not Erik/Charles related but was just too cute to skip. The current batch of X-kids are convinced the base is haunted, but are ignored by all the adults they turned to for help, save Erik, who volunteers.
His evil chuckle in the last panel! Erik is having entirely too much fun fun with playing up his “Master of Magnetism” persona and messing with the kids' heads.
I don't know what it is about Erik's unique brand of bonding with teenagers by both inspiring and terrorizing them that I find adorable, but I just do.
And speaking of Erik and the younger generation, he has been developing a unique rapport with teenage mutant messiah Hope, leading to this great Erik/Charles interaction in the pages of the Generation Hope series:
Aw, poor Charles is feeling left out, which is in keeping with his general lack of purpose in the books lately, since Scott has replaced him in the leadership role.
Erik's face in the third panel is seriously cracking me up. On a more serious note, it's appropriate the old differences and debates are still there, though they've both grown enough to have them without wrecking destruction, psychic attacks or shirtless crucifixions.
Being introduced to the hope of mutantkind as “a dear friend” by former X-Men nemesis is not helping Charles feel any less out of the loop.
LOL, reversing earth's magnetic poles is one thing, but siccing a precocious teen on him is just playing dirty. And Erik is not even attempting to conceal his smugness. No wonder Charles is pissy all the time these days.
In the most recent storyline, Charles' creepy mutant son Legion is causing mayhem, and Erik refuses to let Charles face him alone, adding to Charles' state of permanent annoyance at everyone overruling him
Yep, still married.
So there you have it, my (more or less) complete list of Erik/Charles moments in mainstream comics continuity. There's plenty of slashiness to be had in the various alternative comic book universes (Ultimate X-Men, House of M:Civil War are the more obvious examples), but I'm not familiar enough with most to take on that particular task (or in the case of Ultimate X-Men, to deal with that clusterfuck of an ending), though hopefully some braver soul than me will attempt that.
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Date: 2011-07-05 04:55 pm (UTC)Teehee.
This is both sad and strangely vindicating. Because yay, canon confirmation that neither of them is 100% right in their approach, but on other hand, so many years of conflict and losses could have been avoided if they'd both gotten their heads out of their asses and found some middle groud between kumbayah and kneel before Zod Magneto.
I found it very touching and bittersweet. It's also a much more elegant and understated way to make the point that fuckyougrantmorisson was trying to hammer in Planet X.
Some time later, the X-Men and pretty much all surviving mutants have established a base/ mutant “Utopia” on Magneto's old crashed satellite, just off the coast of San Fransisco. It was only a matter of time before the previous tenant dropped by.
I love the fact that Magneto is basically... oh, so you're taking a page out of my book? Heh. Well, I guess I'm going to join you then. And I'm not going to point out that you're basically doing what I've been kind of doing all this time anyway - I'm just going to smirk to myself and make a handful of snarky comments.
Given how genial their previous interaction was, the only explanation I can think of for Charles' pissiness is that Erik is there to speak to Scott, not him.
As I've said before, the only way it makes sense for me is if they have a telepathic communication in between "hey, I'm here in peace. A hand with Scott?" "SOf course. Just watch the reverse psychology." "You're a terrible actor, Charles. And what's with the glowy eyes- ouch!" "See? Worked like a charm." "..." :p
I don't know what it is about Erik's unique brand of bonding with teenagers by both inspiring and terrorizing them that I find adorable, but I just do.
You're not alone. I'm all azsbxaqgcyefcuygcuyzfgc about this story.
Being introduced to the hope of mutantkind as “a dear friend” by former X-Men nemesis is not helping Charles feel any less out of the loop.
Which, in retrospect, makes Scott quite the ass. Poor Xavier :(
Anyway thank you so much for making this epic picspam of doom, it was a thing of beauty ♥
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Date: 2011-07-05 07:47 pm (UTC)A thousand times yes. Also, I'm totally stealing "fuckyougrantmorisson" for future use.
I love the fact that Magneto is basically... oh, so you're taking a page out of my book? Heh. Well, I guess I'm going to join you then. And I'm not going to point out that you're basically doing what I've been kind of doing all this time anyway - I'm just going to smirk to myself and make a handful of snarky comments.
But what marvellous snarky comments they are. It's funny, because I reread the 90s storyline recently, and Scott (and Jean) specifically rejected the idea of a separatist mutant Utopia. What a difference a decade or two make!
As I've said before, the only way it makes sense for me is if they have a telepathic communication in between "hey, I'm here in peace. A hand with Scott?" "SOf course. Just watch the reverse psychology." "You're a terrible actor, Charles. And what's with the glowy eyes- ouch!" "See? Worked like a charm." "..." :p
I like that interpretation so much! I'll try rereading the issue going on that assumption, it should make much more sense.
Which, in retrospect, makes Scott quite the ass. Poor Xavier :(
It does. I mean, I can see where Scott is coming from in his lingering resentment over all the lies and memory alterations, but I'm just bummed at Charles being out of the loop. You'd think they'd at least try to include him, if only to avoid another Onslaught incident.
And I had doing the picspam of doom. Except...where am I going to have my cracky X-Men discussions now? The comics communities on lj aren't very active (at least the ones for general x-men discussion). :(
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Date: 2011-07-06 01:51 am (UTC)Before I looked into online comic discussion, I remember being...confused by Land's art. Like, why were all the women smiling inappropriately in serious scenes. What was it about some of the faces I found so creepy?
The man is just made of fail.
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Date: 2011-07-05 01:07 pm (UTC)I'm hoping to spend the weekend going through them again!!!!!
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Date: 2011-07-05 11:21 pm (UTC)I already managed to exceed the bandwidth of one photobucket account, and it looks like a second might follow (this entry is thankfully pics from scrapbook, but I'm not clear what the bandwidth limits are), so if the pics disappear, bear with me until I fix it.
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Date: 2011-07-05 01:52 pm (UTC)On another note, I Googled "Greg Land traces" and wow. I know in a manga fandom, an artist traced a page and three frames and had to practically beg for forgiveness when they were caught (I think they got fired, too). But all those tracing examples! It's insane! And totally unfair to the other, more legit artists out there. :/
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Date: 2011-07-05 02:34 pm (UTC)Hum, given the numbers of time Marvel had Erik being a good guy for some times before starting to go all Magneto on the world again for whatever reasons in the book I'd say it's because he regain all his memories XD
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Date: 2011-07-05 02:37 pm (UTC)And hey, since you know everything about X-men comics ever - I remember them doing some comic tie-ins for the older X-men films. Do you know if they've commissioned or produced any comics based on X-men first class?
Because it seems like such an obvious tie-in!
Plus I'd love to see how somebody would draw James and Michael.
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Date: 2011-07-05 03:01 pm (UTC)The idea that Charles and Magneto have both become irrelevant and the future has chosen neither of them is like you said, both a bit vindicating and a bit sad. Especially when you think about them as young men in First Class, with all the passion, idealism (at least in Charles' case) and potential they had.
The scene with the students is scary/cute. Magneto: terrible dad but fun uncle?
I'm a bit worried about the Schism event; I hope it doesn't fracture the interesting and tentative friendship they currently have. But that thought path leads me to more "seriously, why is Scott still the leader, he is terrible in every way and Storm or Dani Moonstar should be leading instead and asdfghjkl;'" ranting and I should stop. XD
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Date: 2011-07-05 11:40 pm (UTC)Mine too. It just says so much about their dynamic.
The idea that Charles and Magneto have both become irrelevant and the future has chosen neither of them is like you said, both a bit vindicating and a bit sad. Especially when you think about them as young men in First Class, with all the passion, idealism (at least in Charles' case) and potential they had.
I know what you mean. Still, I wouldn't discount them yet, you never know when the editorial mandate might change and they end up in the centre of things again.
The scene with the students is scary/cute. Magneto: terrible dad but fun uncle?
Magneto is totally that uncle who buys teens drinks, entertains them with R-rated stories and teaches them how to inhale tobacco smoke!
I'm a bit worried about the Schism event; I hope it doesn't fracture the interesting and tentative friendship they currently have. But that thought path leads me to more "seriously, why is Scott still the leader, he is terrible in every way and Storm or Dani Moonstar should be leading instead and asdfghjkl;'" ranting and I should stop. XD
Oh, don't even get me *started*. I don't mind Scott as field leader, but I've been finding him insufferable ever since he annointed himself leader of the whole species. And Storm or Dani are great ideas-maybe they can bring Hank back as the science consultant. Or resurrect Kurt and appoint him head of morale (*sobs*).
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Date: 2011-07-05 04:28 pm (UTC)But Charles still sounds like a much more interesting leader of the X-Men than Scott. Why would they want to bench him exactly?
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Date: 2011-07-05 09:30 pm (UTC)They actually dealt with this back in the 80's. Charles Xavier has never, ever been a combat leader. When he could walk, it was him against the world, or occasionally, him and Erik against the world -- he didn't put together a team and start training them to go into battle until after he'd lost his legs and couldn't actually go out in the field with them.
When he's dealing with teenagers (who pretty much worship him) and the fights are against folks that aren't much of a match for him personally, Charles is good, but the better his X-Men got, the less he directed them in the field. Then when he got his legs back the *first* time, he tried to take over, and it didn't work out well, at all. He was taking over from Ororo at that point, not Scott, but Scott doesn't appreciate it when Charles takes over either.
Erik is a better combat leader, but honestly not by much -- he is much, much more experienced in *combat* (Charles is a netrunner, he does distance combat. He's always being taken out by the threat to his body that he didn't notice while he was mentally attacking the enemy forces), but not nearly as good in groups, in general, and he's so powerful he's rarely had to figure out how to best integrate a team. Every incarnation of his Brotherhood was a joke, and he's not actually the one who recruited and trained the Acolytes. Mystique, whose powers are far weaker than Magneto's, was a much more badass leader, who recrited, trained and integrated a team that consistently cleaned the X-Men's clock until Deus Ex Machina (frequently, Rogue turning on her mother and former teammates, but Deus ex Machina was also known to consist of Future Kitty Pryde, Much Bigger X-Men Team Than You Expected Because Reinforcements Came In, and Legion Turning Evil.)
Scott is actually a damn good leader. Not really such a good person, but then, his worst offenses have been cheating on his wife, not macking on teenagers or patients, so he's a bit less morally questionnable in his personal life than Charles.
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Date: 2011-07-05 05:37 pm (UTC)Yeap, with you there. Totally still married at the end of it all.
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Date: 2011-07-05 06:08 pm (UTC)I've enjoyed your posts immensly over the weeks you've been doing them and I have to say i'm sad to see them end, but I do intend to read them again so I can enjoy the Charles/Erik. And the pretty pictures.
Thankyou very much for doing this. :)
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Date: 2011-07-05 11:54 pm (UTC)HA!
And you're welcome! Honestly I'm sad to have finished them too, I enjoyed having an outlet for the squee the movie left me with.
I managed to exceed the bandwidth of one of the photobucket accounts I used, so if you reread and find the pics gone, be patient as I transfer them to Scrapbook.
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Date: 2011-07-06 03:03 am (UTC)Definitely still married.
Hmm, they are going back and forth on Charles's eye color these days, I notice looking at these all back to back.
And yes, House of M: Civil War is my current favorite slash A/U, also because Erik is a person in that, rather than...whatever he is in Ultimate. Not to mention Jeph Loeb failure.
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Date: 2011-07-06 08:35 am (UTC)And I have the same issues with Ultimate Magneto that you do. Or really, a lot of the Ultimate characters. I'm amused by some aspects of the Ultimate verse, but refuse to take it seriously, because when you think of events like Ultimatum...yeah.
Well, they are rebooting the Ultimates verse
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Date: 2011-07-10 03:35 am (UTC)Thank you for taking the work to post all these, they're great references.
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Date: 2011-07-11 08:43 am (UTC)And that line is probably one of my favourite moments of them overall.
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Date: 2011-08-12 11:41 pm (UTC)Thank you.
Thank you.
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Date: 2011-08-17 09:31 pm (UTC)I guess it's the best time for Erik and Charles to leave X-Men and start building their own house/planet/asteroid/island...
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Date: 2011-08-29 02:18 pm (UTC)I guess it's the best time for Erik and Charles to leave X-Men and start building their own house/planet/asteroid/island...
In other words, a redux of the Excalibur plot. Not that I'd mind!
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Date: 2011-08-29 06:12 pm (UTC)Maybe Hope is really the hope for mutants but she doesn't understand that the times have changed - and almost the whole progress in mutants - humans relationship happened thanks to Xavier and other mutant rights activists. And that "we're all humans" policy sounds very nice but overlooks the fact that people who are mutants have to learn how to control their powers - and it's a responsibility "normal" people don't have to bear. The gift/curse still exists, there will always be people who need help BECAUSE they are mutants and thank god that someone like Xavier exists.
Sorry for the rant ^^''' I just really like Professor X, have always liked him and don't like to see him treated like that...
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Date: 2011-09-29 09:57 am (UTC)I think Hope has that problem some young activists do, where they are so eager to change things now, including the way activism is done, that they fail to appreciate the strides and sacrifices of older generations.
Charles is getting pretty sidelines in comics right now. I can only hope this changes in the future.
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Date: 2011-11-21 04:37 pm (UTC)They are THAT GOOD. And your comments...god your snarky commentssssss XD
So much <3
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Date: 2011-11-22 07:40 pm (UTC)Wow, that's kind of awesome. I'm flattered. :)
I'm you enjoyed those posts!