I'd go with 'unprofessional etc' rather than 'purposefully deceitful', but then I'm trying to be positive (kinda) about it.
As much as I wish that people wouldn't post child porn at all, I still think they should be given a warning, rather than just getting kicked. I know that LJ is concerned that they'll be seen as co-operating with child pornographers, but really, would it be such a hardship? "Remove this art or you will be booted!" would it kill them? These permanent bans are just cruel - it's not just an electronic service Ponderosa and the others are losing, it's access to an entire community.
On the other hand, strikethrough and the fall out from that should have come as a big warning that this was coming, and yet people still didn't take their stuff down. Then again, I believe that one of the art pieces in question was posted something like a year and a half ago, which makes me think that a fan with a grudge has gone through the community and looked for something or someone to target. LJ itself wouldn't have the time, and since one of the arts was locked, this has to be personal.
And you know, when Snape/Hagrid and Snape/Black etc were kicked off yahoo for having kiddie porn and I was suspended, never allowed to return (until I got a new email address anyway) no one rushed to boycot, and those were in no way under aged stuff! That again, was just another fan with a grudge and a mouthful of lies.
The only thing I can suggest is that we put somethings underground again. Fandom used to be so much more circumspect, so much more careful. We just might have to go back to that. Lock everything, use anonyamiser (sp?) services, faux links. It can be done, we've just got to realise that LJ isn't going to let us get them into huge legal wrangles.
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Date: 2007-08-03 02:27 pm (UTC)As much as I wish that people wouldn't post child porn at all, I still think they should be given a warning, rather than just getting kicked. I know that LJ is concerned that they'll be seen as co-operating with child pornographers, but really, would it be such a hardship? "Remove this art or you will be booted!" would it kill them? These permanent bans are just cruel - it's not just an electronic service Ponderosa and the others are losing, it's access to an entire community.
On the other hand, strikethrough and the fall out from that should have come as a big warning that this was coming, and yet people still didn't take their stuff down. Then again, I believe that one of the art pieces in question was posted something like a year and a half ago, which makes me think that a fan with a grudge has gone through the community and looked for something or someone to target. LJ itself wouldn't have the time, and since one of the arts was locked, this has to be personal.
And you know, when Snape/Hagrid and Snape/Black etc were kicked off yahoo for having kiddie porn and I was suspended, never allowed to return (until I got a new email address anyway) no one rushed to boycot, and those were in no way under aged stuff! That again, was just another fan with a grudge and a mouthful of lies.
The only thing I can suggest is that we put somethings underground again. Fandom used to be so much more circumspect, so much more careful. We just might have to go back to that. Lock everything, use anonyamiser (sp?) services, faux links. It can be done, we've just got to realise that LJ isn't going to let us get them into huge legal wrangles.