I can see it causing some interesting dynamics, because of course Dexter wouldn't be jealous of that, but Deb would probably project that on to him if he started to get nervous for other reasons.
That's a very good point, I really hope they go that route for the show. The relationship between Dexter and Deb is definitely one of the things that interest me most on the show.
I go back and forth on Lilah. I think it's a bit forced at the moment. I mean, first I hate the whole "I'm so crazy I steal and destroy things that belong to other people!" thing and I always want somebody to just tell her she's not wacky or dangerous and call the cops.
Oh, ITA. It's not her that I like, more her potential narrative function. Otherwise, yeah, she's a total poseur, and unfortunately believable-hell, I *knew* girls like her in Uni.
I thought he was a bit naive to think she "saw him" when he was showing her the bodies.
Yes, for all of Dexter occasional very accurate insight into human behaviour, he has a massive blind spot when it comes to his desire to find someone who really *sees* him. Just because she's all 'oh, check me out, I'm so goth that I fetishize death' stance, I don't think she'd necessarily be so accepting of his extracurricular hobby. And if she is, it would be be a MASSIVE problem, because hers would be that blend of unpredictable crazy not structured by any "Code".
Also I really hope they don't cave and make Dexter just another guy who of course wants to have sex with the woman the way anyone else would. I like him staying different and not being into it the way you'd expect.
I'm on the fence about this-no, really, despite being slightly blinded by the hotness of MCH and desire to see him do the dirty (and I wouldn't exactly *complain* if it happened, mind). The intensity of his reaction to her doesn't necessarily come from a sexual desire imo, but a much darker place-in a way, his 'dark passenger' is looking for a little playmate to replace the one it lost with Brian's death...and wow, for some reason every Dexter thought I have today comes with incestuous overtones. Er. But you know what I mean.
But I think the writers/director are having a difficult time depicting that darkness in a way that the average, non-sociopathic viewer can enjoy, so they're making choices that seem to invoke sexual desire. Even the way Lilah is filmed-there's something about the camera angle that's more sexual than any way *Rita* is likely to be filmed. So I'm not saying that Dexter is thinking with his...er, "little passenger", but it does murk the waters a little. Wow, the more I write about this, the more I forget what my original point was. We'll wait and see, I guess?
I kind of like that about Harry, though, because Harry's dealing with the reality. Serial killers are, well, they're serial killers. If he fails at shaping Dexter into this, Dexter needs to be killed, pretty much. He's not somebody who ought to be feeling that his impulses are okay. He's just as human as she is, but we don't just all have good and evil within us and therefore we're all just like serial killers. Whether you call him a monster or not, he's a predator. A lot of what Harry does with Dexter--and I think Dexter gets this--isn't so much raising a child as training an animal. Which is stone cold and also great.:-)
Don't get me wrong, normally Harry's 'training' method is one of my favourite aspects of the show, even if it *did* fuck Dexter up immensely because really-consider the alternative. I think that perhaps what threw me in this flashback was Dexter's age. We've mostly gotten teenage!Dexter so far in flashbacks, with the exception of wee!Dexter having the first Very Important Talk with Harry in the camping trip. It's like-I could deal with teen Dexter (and damn, that kid is creepy. ALL the kid actors playing younger Dexter were well-cast and excellent). Anyway, it was an odd transition for me to go from Harry being so *careful* with the phrasing of the questions in that first talk to "the MONSTER in you"! Yes, it was necessary. And fucked-up. And excellent. And then I stared into the kid's crazy intense, unblinking stare, and some of my sympathy subsided, because YIKES!
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Date: 2007-10-22 09:42 pm (UTC)That's a very good point, I really hope they go that route for the show. The relationship between Dexter and Deb is definitely one of the things that interest me most on the show.
I go back and forth on Lilah. I think it's a bit forced at the moment. I mean, first I hate the whole "I'm so crazy I steal and destroy things that belong to other people!" thing and I always want somebody to just tell her she's not wacky or dangerous and call the cops.
Oh, ITA. It's not her that I like, more her potential narrative function. Otherwise, yeah, she's a total poseur, and unfortunately believable-hell, I *knew* girls like her in Uni.
I thought he was a bit naive to think she "saw him" when he was showing her the bodies.
Yes, for all of Dexter occasional very accurate insight into human behaviour, he has a massive blind spot when it comes to his desire to find someone who really *sees* him. Just because she's all 'oh, check me out, I'm so goth that I fetishize death' stance, I don't think she'd necessarily be so accepting of his extracurricular hobby. And if she is, it would be be a MASSIVE problem, because hers would be that blend of unpredictable crazy not structured by any "Code".
Also I really hope they don't cave and make Dexter just another guy who of course wants to have sex with the woman the way anyone else would. I like him staying different and not being into it the way you'd expect.
I'm on the fence about this-no, really, despite being slightly blinded by the hotness of MCH and desire to see him do the dirty (and I wouldn't exactly *complain* if it happened, mind). The intensity of his reaction to her doesn't necessarily come from a sexual desire imo, but a much darker place-in a way, his 'dark passenger' is looking for a little playmate to replace the one it lost with Brian's death...and wow, for some reason every Dexter thought I have today comes with incestuous overtones. Er. But you know what I mean.
But I think the writers/director are having a difficult time depicting that darkness in a way that the average, non-sociopathic viewer can enjoy, so they're making choices that seem to invoke sexual desire. Even the way Lilah is filmed-there's something about the camera angle that's more sexual than any way *Rita* is likely to be filmed. So I'm not saying that Dexter is thinking with his...er, "little passenger", but it does murk the waters a little. Wow, the more I write about this, the more I forget what my original point was. We'll wait and see, I guess?
I kind of like that about Harry, though, because Harry's dealing with the reality. Serial killers are, well, they're serial killers. If he fails at shaping Dexter into this, Dexter needs to be killed, pretty much. He's not somebody who ought to be feeling that his impulses are okay. He's just as human as she is, but we don't just all have good and evil within us and therefore we're all just like serial killers. Whether you call him a monster or not, he's a predator. A lot of what Harry does with Dexter--and I think Dexter gets this--isn't so much raising a child as training an animal. Which is stone cold and also great.:-)
Don't get me wrong, normally Harry's 'training' method is one of my favourite aspects of the show, even if it *did* fuck Dexter up immensely because really-consider the alternative. I think that perhaps what threw me in this flashback was Dexter's age. We've mostly gotten teenage!Dexter so far in flashbacks, with the exception of wee!Dexter having the first Very Important Talk with Harry in the camping trip. It's like-I could deal with teen Dexter (and damn, that kid is creepy. ALL the kid actors playing younger Dexter were well-cast and excellent). Anyway, it was an odd transition for me to go from Harry being so *careful* with the phrasing of the questions in that first talk to "the MONSTER in you"! Yes, it was necessary. And fucked-up. And excellent. And then I stared into the kid's crazy intense, unblinking stare, and some of my sympathy subsided, because YIKES!